Thoughts of an American Centrist

Friday, August 05, 2005

NCAA Outlaws Indian Mascots

The politically correct stench is so foul I can hardly breathe. MSNBC reports:
The NCAA banned the use of American Indian mascots by sports teams during its postseason tournaments, but will not prohibit them otherwise.

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Nicknames or mascots deemed “hostile or abusive” would not be allowed on team uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford’s president.
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At least 18 schools have mascots the NCAA deem “hostile or abusive,” including Florida State’s Seminole and Illinois’ Illini. The full list of schools was not immediately released.

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Florida State, for example, has received permission from the Seminole tribe in Florida to use the nickname. That, however, will not suffice.


Allow me to be a bit hostile to the NCAA.

What kind of crazy parallel universe do these people think they live in where they actually believe sports teams named in honor of American Indian tribes constitutes discrimination and / or hostility?

My goodness, people, we name sports teams after Indian (sorry, "Native Americans") not because we hate them, but because we respect Native American values, culture, courage, and art. Why would we name our teams (and by extension, ourselves) after something we hated? I've never heard of the "Valley High Ax Murderers!" There's a reason why we have an American hero named William Tecumseh Sherman, but none named John Stalin Smith.

Despite what you may see in John Wayne movies, Americans love and respect Indians. Trying to discredit that respect as a form a racism does a disservice to us all.

Update: Yeah, what this guy said!

42 Comments:

  • My initial reaction to these issues is to think it's kind of overly sensitive, but of course I'm not Native American. I do have a couple of friends who are Miccosukees and Seminoles, and they like having the Florida State Seminoles named after them, viewing it as something which pays homage to their culture. But I've heard others make the argument that it's a bastardization of their culture and I can't really argue with that. I think all you have to do is put your own cultural heritage in the same position to be able to empathize with his position.

    The Washington Redskins for example. I don't think anyone these days would be comfortable with the same team being named the Washington Coons, or the Washington Sambos, or the Washington Sheenys, or the Washington Wet-backs, or the Washington Wopps, etc.. That Shit just ain't cool, when it's your particular ethnic or racial group.

    That said, as an FSU fan myself I wouldn't want to see the name changed or their mascot, which is a guy dressed up like an Indian on a horse, changed either. I think we can find some kind of compromise in there somewhere. Perhaps giving Native Americans some say in how they are presented by these teams. Maybe we could use this debate as an opportunity to educate people, instead of creating division.

    By Blogger Aaron X, at 3:46 AM  

  • Perhaps I just don't understand where people take offense. As someone with direct ties to both ireland and the mayflower, I don't have any qualms with the Patriots, the Celtics, or the Fighting Irish. If any of my readers have Native American roots, please explain how a team named in honor of a tribe's history is offensive.

    By Blogger Jonathan C, at 11:49 AM  

  • I enjoy posts like these, smaller ridiculous stories that fall through the cracks.

    Bravo Zulu and Keep Charging.

    By Blogger J. James Mooney, at 2:25 PM  

  • Context matters. You might like the Fighting Irish, but I'm guessing you wouldn't like the Dublin Drunkards, for instance.

    More subtly, there's also the question of the relationship between the depicted culture and the institutional mascot/logo. For instance, I would not be offended by the Brooklyn Heights Fighting Rabbis (I'd actually be rather amused)...but I would be at least a little concerned by the Salt Lake City Fighting Rabbis, to say nothing of the Berlin Fighting Rabbis.

    Finally, as someone who's seen a great number of John Wayne movies, the claim that Americans love and respect American Indians sounds a little simplistic to me. It's true that popular images of Native Americans have become far kinder over the last 30 years, but they were also exceedingly ugly before that. Many love denouncing political correctness - it's an easy target - but political correctness was largely responsible for that change.

    By Blogger Tom Strong, at 5:31 PM  

  • Good discussion. I'm on the bubble on this. I kind of think to the extent that it's possible the question is up to the potential offendees. You cannot separate it from the particular history. I can see why Indians might not like Redskins, and blacks might not like a team name like "the Ebonies," but I don't think many white people would be too upset over the Palefaces."

    By Blogger M. Takhallus., at 3:29 PM  

  • Michael,

    "Redskins" is kind of a seperate case because it has traditionally been used as a derogatory racial slur. As reader "the dead" said, "that shit just ain't cool."

    Unlike, say, "The Braves" which implies that the Native Americans are, well, brave. I think that we need to look at the spirit in which the name is used. Like Tom said, "Context matters." Individuals and groups are honored to have buildings, awards, and scholarships named after them, so why not sports teams?

    Tom,
    I'd credit our country's collective realization of how bad (to say the least) we treated our continent's natives in our formative years to the degree of skepiticism of government in the post Vietnam era, not PC.

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